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Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.02.18 16:29:00 -
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Inkarr Hashur wrote:If projection was supposed to be a weakness of the Angel lineup why did you give them a falloff bonus? That's like saying projection's supposed to be a weakness of the zealot.
And a huge drone bay.  |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.02.22 10:54:00 -
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Barrogh Habalu wrote:PaNtHeeRa wrote:Skip the nerfing of any of these ships. The Angel ships are fine as they are... A VERY expensive and VERY skill intensive line up of ships. Buff the ships that need it and bring them all into line with each other. If that means raising the bar on all the pirate faction ships to the level of the Angel ships... SO BE IT!!!
That is the point of these pirate ships. To out perform all other T1 ships and equal or barely beat out T2 ships. Thats why we pay the ISK and skill time to fly them. They hurt to lose. Angel ships are expensive exactly because they perform very well and in style that is favoured these days by many. It's not like supplying Cynabals is much harder than Phantasms, but the former are sold like hot pies unlike latter. I'm not sure if nerfing their defining trait is a good idea though.
The CCP comments in this very thread suggest that they're happy with its defining feature of mobility. They suggest the problem lies in damage projection and EHP. Sounds reasonable enough to me. 
On a different note, one reason why the Angel ships are expensive is because of high demand. You're at liberty to argue that they're balanced because they're expensive, but just cast your mind back to CCP's responses to that line of reasoning in the past...  |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.03.11 14:42:00 -
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He may be talking about FW frigate plex thingies. But honestly, the Worm is pretty unimpressive at PVE too, it's just so lacklustre all round. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.03.19 13:48:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Bouh Revetoile wrote:amurder Hakomairos wrote:if you have the nuts to PvP in a 2B+ ship then you deserve the benefits. So titan pilots deserved the right to blap everything ? I'm glad CCP don't think like you. IMO, a BS, with faction BS tank&gank (not even T1), shouldn't be as fast as a cruiser... It's ok for the ship to be better than a T1, but the mach have way too much. I think the mach is perfect in terms of balance. Almost all of the pirate BS are very well balanced and perform well in their respective niche.
I think the combination of damage projection and mobility is a bit much, I'd look at reducing its falloff. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.03.20 00:11:00 -
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Diesel47 wrote:Gypsio III wrote:
I think the combination of damage projection and mobility is a bit much, I'd look at reducing its falloff.
And the vindicator is arguably the best brawler in the game. So what? If you are worried about something being unbalanced, whine about tier 3 BC, they are too fast and project too much damage too far.
I'm not talking about the Vindicator, I'm talking about the Machariel, silly.
I think you're right about t3 BCs though. |
Gypsio III
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Posted - 2013.04.25 15:08:00 -
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It's no coincidence that the subpar pirate factions are the ones that have no special ability. Angel - mobility and damage projection; Raiders - neuts and webs; Serpentis - webs and DPS. Neither Sansha nor Guristas have any special feature that sets them apart from any other generic gank 'n' tank ship.
Covert ops cloaky Sansha may be a bit tricky to balance. But what would a Guristas special ability look like? No ECM, please... even super-strong ECM bursts would probably be a really bad idea in practice. Capless lasers for Sansha is an option, albeit a slightly dull one, but I just don't know what to do with Guristas to make them relevant. |
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